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		<title>By: fraia888</title>
		<link>http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/domain-name-held-to-ransom/comment-page-1/#comment-8027</link>
		<dc:creator>fraia888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had to hire a solicitor  because ems put my real name on the listings for my escort website,  they were really not interested in my website at all. they eventually put it live after i visited them, but a week later my name was up there, and i received an email to say &quot;thank you for purchasing the google indexing package&quot; (which i hadnt ). the website has been taken down and apparently the domain name is &quot;mine&quot; but i wont be using it. apparently ems have their new office opening tomorrow friday 3rd feb .!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had to hire a solicitor  because ems put my real name on the listings for my escort website,  they were really not interested in my website at all. they eventually put it live after i visited them, but a week later my name was up there, and i received an email to say &#8220;thank you for purchasing the google indexing package&#8221; (which i hadnt ). the website has been taken down and apparently the domain name is &#8220;mine&#8221; but i wont be using it. apparently ems have their new office opening tomorrow friday 3rd feb .!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/domain-name-held-to-ransom/comment-page-1/#comment-5989</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I offer a completely hassle free and free of charge transfer of any domain I host.  On the other hand, when clients are transferring their domains to me, I find many tag holders try every delaying tactic in the book to hang on to a domain, maybe so they can continue to charge renewals even if not hosting.

Knowing that all it takes to change a tag on a .co.uk is to enter the new tag into a form online, I find it hard to justify a charge of any kind - any tiny cost surely comes out of the profit I&#039;ve made from the customer over the years.  Nor can I understand why some tag holders email back a form to be completed and submitted along with photo ID or a utility bill or even (horrifyingly) a bank statement to &quot;prove&quot; the identity of the owner.  

A client recently logged into his secure control panel at his old host, requested a tag change and it has taken a week to get the form demanding all the above. I think this is unforgivable. The client is exasperated, and annoyed that he has to spend his valuable time filling in a pointless form and hunting for the required ID. He knows it&#039;s all unnecessary because when he asked me several years ago to change the tag to theirs, I did it instantly while he was still on the phone... and I was on holiday in Greece at the time too. He&#039;s pleased to be coming back to me.

:o)
R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I offer a completely hassle free and free of charge transfer of any domain I host.  On the other hand, when clients are transferring their domains to me, I find many tag holders try every delaying tactic in the book to hang on to a domain, maybe so they can continue to charge renewals even if not hosting.</p>
<p>Knowing that all it takes to change a tag on a .co.uk is to enter the new tag into a form online, I find it hard to justify a charge of any kind &#8211; any tiny cost surely comes out of the profit I&#8217;ve made from the customer over the years.  Nor can I understand why some tag holders email back a form to be completed and submitted along with photo ID or a utility bill or even (horrifyingly) a bank statement to &#8220;prove&#8221; the identity of the owner.  </p>
<p>A client recently logged into his secure control panel at his old host, requested a tag change and it has taken a week to get the form demanding all the above. I think this is unforgivable. The client is exasperated, and annoyed that he has to spend his valuable time filling in a pointless form and hunting for the required ID. He knows it&#8217;s all unnecessary because when he asked me several years ago to change the tag to theirs, I did it instantly while he was still on the phone&#8230; and I was on holiday in Greece at the time too. He&#8217;s pleased to be coming back to me.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
R</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe the way ems-internet have treated me...These are the FACTS:

1)They do not allow enough time from the &quot;renew&quot; date for you to cancel and transfer your domain.
2)They auto renew contracts, even ofcom have banned these now as they are illegal.
3)Their fees are the highest I could find anywhere on the internet, by a LONG way.
4)The member of staff that spoke to me had no interest of solving my problem, they simply wanted my money.
5)Bring it on ems-internet, you and the way you do business needs to be stopped, in my opinion.  You are rude, aggressive, do not make it clear how customers can cancel and to top it it all you post fake reviews of your own company on the internet.  Take me to court and I will have all your computers and those of your employees examined to prove this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe the way ems-internet have treated me&#8230;These are the FACTS:</p>
<p>1)They do not allow enough time from the &#8220;renew&#8221; date for you to cancel and transfer your domain.<br />
2)They auto renew contracts, even ofcom have banned these now as they are illegal.<br />
3)Their fees are the highest I could find anywhere on the internet, by a LONG way.<br />
4)The member of staff that spoke to me had no interest of solving my problem, they simply wanted my money.<br />
5)Bring it on ems-internet, you and the way you do business needs to be stopped, in my opinion.  You are rude, aggressive, do not make it clear how customers can cancel and to top it it all you post fake reviews of your own company on the internet.  Take me to court and I will have all your computers and those of your employees examined to prove this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob, if you said something defamatory that wasn&#039;t true and couldn&#039;t be proved e.g. &quot;XXX is a thief&quot; or &quot;XXX tells lies&quot; they might have a case but if you are merely reporting on facts that you can prove it would be difficult to bring a case against you. Did you consider rewriting your initial post instead of removing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob, if you said something defamatory that wasn&#8217;t true and couldn&#8217;t be proved e.g. &#8220;XXX is a thief&#8221; or &#8220;XXX tells lies&#8221; they might have a case but if you are merely reporting on facts that you can prove it would be difficult to bring a case against you. Did you consider rewriting your initial post instead of removing it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I decided to remove that post - after quite a bit of pressure from EMS Internet - the post had become quite popular and worked it&#039;s way up to postion 5 when you searched for &quot;ems internet&quot; or &quot;ems internet reviews&quot;. There is now a huge thread about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webdesignerforum.co.uk/topic/52281-ems-internet-a-very-negative-review-ems-internetcouk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ems internet&lt;/a&gt; on a very big web design forum - that is currently sitting in position #2 when you search for &quot;ems internet&quot; in google - EMS have also threatened the forum owners too. Quite scary.  They researched me online and called me at work - very in appropriate imo! The lady was very nice on the phone, but the general message was &quot;if you don&#039;t take this down we will take things further legally&quot;. I decided to take it down as I couldn&#039;t be bothered with the agro at the time. I have actually had 9 direct emsils from different people asking for a copy of it - I have of course declined :)

It&#039;s all quite a bit of a saga over the little review I originally left :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I decided to remove that post &#8211; after quite a bit of pressure from EMS Internet &#8211; the post had become quite popular and worked it&#8217;s way up to postion 5 when you searched for &#8220;ems internet&#8221; or &#8220;ems internet reviews&#8221;. There is now a huge thread about <a href="http://www.webdesignerforum.co.uk/topic/52281-ems-internet-a-very-negative-review-ems-internetcouk/" rel="nofollow">ems internet</a> on a very big web design forum &#8211; that is currently sitting in position #2 when you search for &#8220;ems internet&#8221; in google &#8211; EMS have also threatened the forum owners too. Quite scary.  They researched me online and called me at work &#8211; very in appropriate imo! The lady was very nice on the phone, but the general message was &#8220;if you don&#8217;t take this down we will take things further legally&#8221;. I decided to take it down as I couldn&#8217;t be bothered with the agro at the time. I have actually had 9 direct emsils from different people asking for a copy of it &#8211; I have of course declined <img src='http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all quite a bit of a saga over the little review I originally left <img src='http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob, I feel for you, I could related to everything you experienced even down to the change of attitude of the sales woman. Good for you for posting about it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob, I feel for you, I could related to everything you experienced even down to the change of attitude of the sales woman. Good for you for posting about it <img src='http://www.kaydinsdale.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Paul. There is no way of knowing what motivated the other provider to assist in the transfer knowing money was owed to you - but if it was motivated by greed then perhaps Karma will be biting them on the rear at some point. 

I must say I was VERY surprised at how simple the process was when I assisted my client as I thought there would be some sort of mediation involved. Perhaps it comes down to the judgement of the Nominet staff taking the call?  

Some would say you should go through the small claims court to get your money back but I suspect the time and effort it would take probably wouldn&#039;t be justified. 

Best of luck!

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Paul. There is no way of knowing what motivated the other provider to assist in the transfer knowing money was owed to you &#8211; but if it was motivated by greed then perhaps Karma will be biting them on the rear at some point. </p>
<p>I must say I was VERY surprised at how simple the process was when I assisted my client as I thought there would be some sort of mediation involved. Perhaps it comes down to the judgement of the Nominet staff taking the call?  </p>
<p>Some would say you should go through the small claims court to get your money back but I suspect the time and effort it would take probably wouldn&#8217;t be justified. </p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. forgot to explicitly say that I do offer a completely hassle free transfer policy.  As long as a client has paid for the services they requested, their domain is theirs to move where they wish. 

It&#039;s a 1 minute job to transfer a domain name so why charge for it?  Also, I believe it&#039;s always best to deal with outgoing clients and their new providers in a polite manner as the bad press is just not worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. forgot to explicitly say that I do offer a completely hassle free transfer policy.  As long as a client has paid for the services they requested, their domain is theirs to move where they wish. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a 1 minute job to transfer a domain name so why charge for it?  Also, I believe it&#8217;s always best to deal with outgoing clients and their new providers in a polite manner as the bad press is just not worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just fallen foul of &#039;a slightly dirtier side of the coin&#039; ...

This morning two emails drop into my inbox from Nominet notifying me that one of my clients has gone direct to them and changed admin contacts and the IPSTAG.

A couple of weeks prior the client&#039;s new provider had emailed us asking to transfer the domain and I notified them that once the client cleared their outstanding account (they never advised they were transferring and owed XX months hosting) I would gladly change the contact details and IPSTAG.  We exchanged a few further emails and I was informed the client would be in touch.

Fast forward to present day and it appears that provider instead guided the client through the process of transferring the domain direct through Nominet.  

Now, I would never dream of doing this to another web professional, but do I want the rules changed?  I&#039;m not sure as for all I am really upset at losing money for services provided in good faith (and had provided to this client for over 5 years) I know there are so many charlatans out there who do hold onto domains or change for them to be transferred for no good reason.

Hmmmmph!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just fallen foul of &#8216;a slightly dirtier side of the coin&#8217; &#8230;</p>
<p>This morning two emails drop into my inbox from Nominet notifying me that one of my clients has gone direct to them and changed admin contacts and the IPSTAG.</p>
<p>A couple of weeks prior the client&#8217;s new provider had emailed us asking to transfer the domain and I notified them that once the client cleared their outstanding account (they never advised they were transferring and owed XX months hosting) I would gladly change the contact details and IPSTAG.  We exchanged a few further emails and I was informed the client would be in touch.</p>
<p>Fast forward to present day and it appears that provider instead guided the client through the process of transferring the domain direct through Nominet.  </p>
<p>Now, I would never dream of doing this to another web professional, but do I want the rules changed?  I&#8217;m not sure as for all I am really upset at losing money for services provided in good faith (and had provided to this client for over 5 years) I know there are so many charlatans out there who do hold onto domains or change for them to be transferred for no good reason.</p>
<p>Hmmmmph!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Allport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Allport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have had a very similar experience with EMS. Have a read of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.web-design-talk.co.uk/331/ems-internet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.web-design-talk.co.uk/331/ems-internet &lt;/a&gt; - £100 for a simple website backup, £100 for an IPS TAG change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have had a very similar experience with EMS. Have a read of <a href="http://www.web-design-talk.co.uk/331/ems-internet" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.web-design-talk.co.uk/331/ems-internet" rel="nofollow">http://www.web-design-talk.co.uk/331/ems-internet</a>  &#8211; £100 for a simple website backup, £100 for an IPS TAG change.</p>
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